What happens when gray divorce collides with a cancer diagnosis—and the response is laughter?
In Episode 88, Andrew Hatherley is joined by Greg Schwem, veteran stand-up comedian, corporate speaker, and author of Turning Gut Punches into Punchlines, for a candid, insightful, and often funny conversation about surviving—and growing—through life’s toughest disruptions.
What if divorce didn’t have to mean courtroom battles, skyrocketing legal bills, and emotional devastation? In Episode 88, Andrew Hatherley welcomes three members of the Collaborative Law Institute of Minnesota — family law attorney Janna Hefty, Certified Divorce Financial Analyst Michelle Leisen, and marriage and family therapist Brian Burns — for an in-depth conversation about collaborative divorce and why it may be a better alternative to litigation.
What happens when a divorce settlement looks perfect on paper—but falls apart at the mortgage desk?
In Episode 87, Andrew Hatherley welcomes back Tami Wollensak, Certified Divorce Lending Professional and mortgage industry veteran, to explore one of the most overlooked risks in gray divorce: real estate financing after settlement. From mortgage assumptions and refinancing timelines to income qualification and retirement strategies, this episode reveals why planning before you sign a settlement agreement can save you from costly surprises later.
Sex and intimacy don’t disappear with age, but they do change. Andrew Hatherley welcomes JenMG, intimacy coach and educator, for a candid conversation about sex, desire, and connection in midlife and beyond.
From long-term marriages and sexless relationships to rediscovering pleasure after divorce, this episode explores how intimacy evolves with aging bodies, changing hormones, and deeper self-awareness, and how reclaiming it can transform life after gray divorce.
Why is January called “Divorce Month? Why do divorce filings spike in the new year? Andrew explains that marriages don’t suddenly fail in January—rather, many couples postpone action until the holidays are over. To avoid a short-lived or poorly executed divorce strategy, he emphasizes the importance of education, preparation, and professional guidance rather than emotional urgency.
In Episode 84, Andrew talks with Amanda Mason, founder of the Solagree, about the innovative new approach to divorce that replaces courtroom battles with cooperation, predictability, and peace of mind.
Amanda—an experienced family law attorney and creator of this groundbreaking process—shares how Solagree blends mediation, arbitration, and flat-fee transparency to help couples resolve their differences without ever stepping foot in court.
Would you help your ex if they needed you? In Episode 83, Andrew chats with Elizabeth Verwey, author of Brave New Endings: True Stories of Caring for an Ex, to discuss how people show care for former partners through illness, aging, and life’s unexpected challenges.
When Oprah Winfrey dedicates an episode of her podcast to Gray Divorce, people pay attention. In Episode 82, Andrew Hatherley shares his reflections on Oprah’s recent discussion, “Gray Divorce and Adult Children: The Fallout for the Family,” offering insight into what the episode got right—and what it overlooked.
From missing male voices to underexplored financial realities, Andrew breaks down the nuances of gray divorce that go beyond the television spotlight and into real life.
With the holidays approaching, Andrew and Dr. Carol Hughes dive deep into how gray divorce can magnify emotional stress during what’s supposed to be “the most wonderful time of the year.” Together, they unpack strategies for coping with loneliness, maintaining family traditions, and creating new, meaningful connections.
Equity compensation—like restricted stock units (RSUs) and stock options—can be one of the most confusing (and valuable) assets in a divorce. In Episode 80, Andrew welcomes Laurie Itkin, Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA) and founder of The Options Lady, to demystify this complex topic.
Laurie shares how equity compensation works, what divorcing couples need to know about taxes, vesting, and division, and the biggest mistakes to avoid when stock-based pay enters the marital balance sheet.
The Gray Divorce Podcast: Episode 79 How to Tell Your Spouse You Want a Divorce with Alexandra Geczi
How do you start one of the hardest conversations of your life—the one where you tell your spouse you want a divorce? In Episode 79, Andrew Hatherley speaks with family law attorney Alexandra Geczi, about the six steps to approaching this emotional and delicate moment with honesty, compassion, and clarity.
Is political polarization just a national issue—or is it playing out in our marriages too? In Episode 78, Andrew Hatherley explores how today’s divisive political climate may be impacting relationships in later life. Through personal observations and expert insight, this episode asks: could our political obsessions be contributing to the rise in gray divorce?